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Law schools produce students 'disconnected' from reality

The focus on providing skills-based education at Australian law schools has seen graduates become more detached from the real world and uncritical in their thinking, one legal author has argued.

user iconLara Bullock 06 April 2016 NewLaw
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Speaking with Lawyers Weekly, Sydney University law graduate Joshua Krook (pictured), who recently authored a book titled Legal Education, Privatization and the Market: The Decline of Justice, Fairness and Morality in Australian Law Schools, said that universities’ shift towards neoliberalism has damaged the quality of education provided.

“Students aren't going to law school to gain a well-rounded understanding of the law and to learn to critique the law any more; they're going simply to gain the technical skills necessary to become a lawyer,” Mr Krook said.

The shift towards neoliberalism in Australia has seen a gradual cut in public funding to universities over the last 40 years, according to Mr Krook.

“The result of that is that universities have become more competitive and have become more about attracting the right kinds of students and making students more in line with the needs of the market and the needs of employers,” he said.

“Part of the problem has been the almost obsessive shift towards graduate attributes and the kinds of skills necessary to produce lawyers.”

Mr Krook said that testament to this is the fact the most used assessment in law schools across Australia is the 'problem question'.

“The problem question format encourages this idea that the law is the law, and that the law cannot be questioned, because all a problem question requires students to do is to understand what the law is and then apply it to a new hypothetical situation,” he said.

“Nowhere in that process can students say, 'this law is unjust’, 'this law is immoral', or 'there are issues with this law that need reform' and so what you have is a very uncritical view of the law as it stands.”

By focusing on the problem question assessments, Mr Krook said universities also produce graduates who are detached from the real world.

“One of the detachments that we have is that law students aren't looking at how the law affects real people,” he said.

“There's this disconnect between what they’re studying and writing down, and the world around them and the actual effects of the laws that they're talking about.

“It makes graduates see clients as the same as these hypothetical questions, just problems to be solved as opposed to ethical dilemmas or moral dilemmas that need to be worked out in a more three-dimensional sense.”

Mr Krook said that although law firms desire graduates who know the law and have the skills to be able to apply it to clients’ cases, he suggests that universities need to teach more than that and give more emphasis to the importance of statute law.

Mr Krook suggests challenging students once they've learnt the law by having exercises and assessments that involve critiquing the law and looking into law reform.

“Instead of just learning what the law is and how to apply it, students then should consider what's wrong with the current legal system and what can be improved about it.”

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    <p>Hmm. I have read your views and think I will respectfully leave it there. </p>
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    <p>Yes, hence the ads for "2 years plus PAE", when your apprenticeship is complete &amp; you can actually do anything useful.</p>
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    <p>Maybe it will change when men stop having a bias which says their career is more important than their wife's and that she can do the Childcare &amp; housework for you. The Family Court is not "biased", it simply recognises that in our backward country women are far more commonly the main caregiver, and kids need stability and somewhere to live, </p>
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    <p>A law degree will not prepare you for the real world practicalities of legal or business life. That can only be learned 'on the trade' as it were. Sure, you can be taught to keep file notes (only in post grad paying more money I might add), however learning how to relate to people and clients only comes with experience. The Degree should give you the skill in learning how to obtain legal information and to think in a certain way. Now if you can't even get a new grad job in today's saturated market, then that's another thing altogether...</p>
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    Over Generalising Saturday, 09 April 2016
    <p>I disagree wholeheartedly with the argument of the writer. Perhaps this is a reflection of the law school he attended rather than law schools in general. During my time at law school social justice and theoretical perspectives of the law has been a large component of my education. I have written over 30,000 words on different research essays related to issues in law, social justice and law reform. If anything I would suggest that in some situations our education has been too focused on the theory to the detriment of students, who take courses on contracts and yet leave university without having ever learnt to draft one, or who have sat through civil procedure courses without ever having been shown and taught how to complete a UCPR form.</p>
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    <p>"Detached from the real world", eh? Pot, meet kettle. Our world has many problems, but a shortage of opinionated junior social justice warriors doesn't seem to be one of them.</p><p>How about we do some division of labour here, and let law schools teach law to people who want to learn law; banging on about politics can remain the primary focus of every other non-STEM course in the universities. </p>
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    <p>Yes, I think the issue of family court bias against men would certainly be of interest in terms of critical thinking about unequal laws and constructive critique. Good for you, it does not matter where you study, it is what you 'do' in your career to progress. Best of luck.</p>
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    <p>A big concern seeing references to social justice here. As a client, I don't want to be told what I can and can't do. Tell me how to do what I want to do. Social justice not a priority for the paying client. Grads overloaded with social programming are going to be the lambs. </p>
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    <p>There is scope for writing in your response to a problem question that the outcome of applying the law to the facts in that problem question is unfair or unjust. More fundamentally, the law itself contains notions of justice, equality, morality - value judgments - so if you aren't thinking about those things when nutting through the "grey areas" of a problem question, you're not approaching problem questions in the way they are intended to be approached. In addition, law schools in Australia ensure that students encounter problem questions as well as essays raising policy issues in both core and elective subjects. If you want a degree that's going to allow you even more time to ponder the big issues, I would combine your law degree with an Arts degree, so you can study politics, history, philosophy, gender studies, etc. - these are just a few of the places to "critique the law" at university. The purpose of a lawyer is to solve the problems of clients, not to tell them how the law ought to be.</p>
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    <p>Further, I have just submitted an IT law essay critiquing the data retention laws and commenting on whether they should be retained, amended or repealed and am partway through a tax law essay that reflects on why a neoliberal society is disadvantageous to those who need welfare benefits.</p>
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